Anxiety, ADHD, Or Burnout?: Understanding Your Nervous Systems Role

Have you ever wondered if what you're experiencing is anxiety, ADHD, or burnout—or maybe all three? This week we're diving deep into the role of the nervous system in these challenges.

I’m thrilled to be joined by Jenny Adams, a somatic and ADHD coach all the way from the UK!

Together, we unpack:

• how dysregulation affects our daily lives
• how to recognize the signs
• and—most importantly—how to use somatic practices to bring more ease and balance into your routine.

If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed, stuck in a stress cycle, or unsure how to support your nervous system, this episode is for you. Tune in for practical insights and actionable steps to help you feel more regulated and resilient. 

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About Jenny:

Jenny supports female entrepreneurs with ADHD get out of burnout and overwhelm (before it turns into chronic illness),and live a balanced and values driven life that you started your business for without working 24/7

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Since it is a transcription there may be spelling errors and/or weird grammar. Ignore that and enjoy! 1 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,640 So is it anxiety, ADHD, or 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,000 burnout?Understanding the nervous 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,600 system's role in all of those challenges? 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,400 Welcome back to another episode of the 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,720 Movement, Mind and Meaning podcast. I'm 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,120 your host, Megan Nolan. And today I'm 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:20,840 very excited to have a special guest with 8 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,600 me all the way from the UK, Jenny 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,400 Adams, who is a somatic and ADHD 10 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,720 coach. Welcome to the show, Jenny. 11 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,120 Thank you for having me on and thank you 12 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:32,840 for thank you for accommodating such a 13 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:34,800 big time difference as well. I mean, 14 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,840 we've navigated 10 hours, so yeah, yeah, 15 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,440 yeah, yes, I know, right. Isn't that the 16 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,320 magic of the interwebs that we can just 17 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,320 be together hanging out virtually all the 18 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,760 way from the UK where Jenny's at and from 19 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,080 Maui where I live. And so coming at you 20 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,520 wherever you are in the world. Hi, good 21 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,080 to have you here, listening or watching, 22 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:54,920 whether you're on the podcast or YouTube, 23 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,080 so. Jenny, we like to just get right down 24 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,640 into the good stuff on this podcast. And 25 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:01,840 of course, everyone can read your 26 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,160 beautiful bio in the show notes. So we 27 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,000 want to get to know you, though. So will 28 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,200 you take us to a moment in time or a part 29 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,400 of your journey where you went through 30 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,560 something that maybe shifted things for 31 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,360 you?Maybe it led to a realization to 32 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,280 get to the point in what you're doing 33 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:18,800 now, how you're sharing your gifts with 34 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,680 the world?Yeah. So 35 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,880 I think for me, one of my biggest shifts 36 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,600 was. Probably 2017 37 00:01:27,960 --> 00:01:30,000 when I would have been, I think I was 26 38 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,720 then and I had been 39 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:34,840 reliant on a wheelchair or a mobility 40 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,520 scooter for two or three 41 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,480 years. I'm in my mid 20s and I 42 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,640 am just like this is not, this is not 43 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,200 life. And that was one of the 44 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,640 pivotal points for me to actually start 45 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,360 looking inwards and looking at my own 46 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,280 stuff and. Rather than relying so much 47 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,400 on doctors and what I've been told that I 48 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,120 can and can't do, I started looking 49 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,000 inwards and and looking at, OK, what 50 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,160 what what am I in control of 51 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,360 and how can I help myself get out of this 52 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,240 place?And spoiler alert, 53 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,280 I did. So the 54 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,520 reason I was in that wheelchair for me 55 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,240 was. Due to undiagnosed 56 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,040 ADHD, unsupported ADHD, which 57 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,440 burnt me out and burnt me out hard, 58 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,680 which then turned into a chronic illness, 59 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,960 which then led to being reliant on this 60 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,360 wheelchair and scooter for for years. 61 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,600 And I've unpicked a lot of that stuff and 62 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,880 kind of peeled back all these layers and 63 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,680 and finally found safety, safety within 64 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,400 myself and if you or 65 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,480 anyone listening. Has been through 66 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,440 trauma, whether you recognize it or not. 67 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,520 Anxiety, depression, you know that that 68 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,480 weighs heavy on us and there's 69 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,960 layers to unpick. But it doesn't mean 70 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,760 it's stuff that you need to let control 71 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,120 your life forever. 72 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,800 Absolutely. Wow. Well, thank you for 73 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,360 those. That beautiful share. And I know 74 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,600 that sounds like, wow, that was a really 75 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,320 intense time, but look at the revelations 76 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,960 and realizations that it led you to, 77 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,360 right?And so that's something we really 78 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,840 speak to here in this community is 79 00:03:20,640 --> 00:03:22,480 we take a perspective, or at least we 80 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,120 attempt to, and sometimes it happens 81 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:25,520 during and sometimes it happens way 82 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,840 later, that everything is a gift or an 83 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,760 opportunity, and you clearly have made 84 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,200 this into both. So I just send you so 85 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,480 much love and so much joy and celebration 86 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,360 for that. that part of your journey. And 87 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,880 so that really leads into a lot of 88 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,200 questions that I have, but it's one. 89 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,160 I know that for many people, like I was 90 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,720 really legitimately convinced that I was 91 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,560 on the neurodivergent spectrum, that, you 92 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,240 know, I must have some sort of flavor and 93 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,840 variety of ADHD or ADD. And I went to get 94 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,200 diagnosed and she said, no, no, I'd say 95 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:58,880 it's probably high functioning anxiety. 96 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,680 And I said, okay, well. Can we explain 97 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,200 all these other things?No, no, it's 98 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,760 probably just that. OK. So in your 99 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,720 experience, why do you 100 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,560 think that that happens for so many 101 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,880 women, this sort of crossover confusion 102 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,840 between anxiety and depression and 103 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,120 ADHD or ADD, this, this kind of 104 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:20,960 conundrum that many of us find ourselves 105 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,760 in?I think firstly 106 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,640 we kind of need to address how much in 107 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,400 our in our Western society we 108 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,960 pathologicalize, is that even a word 109 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,840 pathologize so much of 110 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:35,920 our health and and and our mental health. 111 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,560 And we, you know the the medical world 112 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,160 looks at how do we, how do people fit 113 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,120 into a box. And if you have these 114 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:44,960 list of symptoms, do you fit into that 115 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,880 box?No, let's try this one. 116 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,880 And I think that crossover can 117 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,600 come because. Not many people are looking 118 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,000 at us as a human being and 119 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,000 they're, as you said, you know, there are 120 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,440 flavours of 121 00:04:59,840 --> 00:05:02,720 neurodiversity and you know, 122 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,440 it is a spectrum. So some of us, you 123 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,040 know, we we may end up 124 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,720 very textbook and I think for a lot of 125 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,240 men and boys, the 126 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,440 typical ADHD symptoms are a lot more 127 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,000 outward presenting, whereas for a lot of 128 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,560 girls and women. There's a lot more 129 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,800 internalizing and that that can be due 130 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,680 partly to hormones and also just to our 131 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,600 conditioning. So there's so much of 132 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,040 this that from a very young age that 133 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,840 we're picking up on from the world we're 134 00:05:31,840 --> 00:05:34,080 observing, we're often highly sensitive 135 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,040 people and we are internalizing. 136 00:05:37,280 --> 00:05:38,400 There's something wrong with me. 137 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:41,960 And when we, yeah, 138 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,920 yeah, I can see that. That's a 139 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,360 that's a tough one, right?Mm-hmm 140 00:05:48,840 --> 00:05:51,360 And when we've spent our whole life with 141 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,080 that belief, it's 142 00:05:54,280 --> 00:05:57,040 fucking hard. It's It's hard to live 143 00:05:57,280 --> 00:06:00,080 like that. So what do we do? 144 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,720 We come up with coping strategies. We We 145 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,960 blame ourselves, we hold this stuff in, 146 00:06:05,280 --> 00:06:06,880 and then we look at, okay, well, what can 147 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,600 I control?What am I able to 148 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,400 do?Oh, ohh can I plan ahead and do 149 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,560 this thing and and make sure I'm adapting 150 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,120 my behaviours to fit into this world? 151 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,200 as opposed to maybe asking for what our 152 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,960 needs are. And I think this is where the 153 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,120 the anxiety and the the neuro 154 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,080 spiciness can cross over 155 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,720 and we go to often a medical, you know, a 156 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,160 Western medical doctor, and they will go, 157 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,840 ah, it's anxiety, here's some pills, 158 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,680 or this is what you need to do. And 159 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,920 more and more, we are speaking about how 160 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,640 ADHD specificallyIs 161 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,680 being diagnosed and recognised in a lot 162 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,600 more millennial women, older, you know, 163 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,320 30 plus women now because 164 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,400 it just hasn't been recognised. We've 165 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,280 been looking at the the male model for 166 00:06:59,280 --> 00:07:00,800 years and years. There's all these 167 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,360 anxious women that are probably 168 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,160 anxious because they're trying to 169 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:06,720 function in a world that doesn't support 170 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:06,960 them. 171 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:11,640 Absolutely. Yeah, it's such an 172 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,920 interesting conundrum and. I love that 173 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,040 you make up words as well. So welcome to 174 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:16,480 the party 175 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,200 and and I saw and thank you for 176 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:23,960 witnessing me in that and and that's 177 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,720 something very likely that many of 178 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,680 this people in this community can relate 179 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,080 to as well is that feeling of. 180 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,120 Confusion and self-doubt and wondering, 181 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:36,800 is there something wrong with me?I can't 182 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:38,320 figure this out. This seems to be this 183 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,720 lingering issue, right?And seeking 184 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,880 solutions is a normal thing. And of 185 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,400 course we want to have clarity. We want 186 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,880 to have understanding. And the challenge 187 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,520 is, is that when we were not looked at as 188 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,240 a full being from this full spectrum of 189 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,560 all that we are, the many petals to the 190 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,120 flower that is the experience that is 191 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,760 you, then it's really easy to get put in 192 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,040 a box and we get in a box and we're like, 193 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,120 this doesn't fit. Not supposed to be in 194 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:04,760 this box, you knowAnd then we have this 195 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,920 sort of, OK, well, I'm going to try to 196 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:08,600 sort this out and and, you know, find 197 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,440 another solution. And so, yeah, it's it 198 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,440 was really interesting to me because that 199 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:14,960 was it. Like we had about an hour 200 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:16,560 together and she's like, OK, so these are 201 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,200 the three medications I would recommend. 202 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,560 And I was like, oh. OK. 203 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,080 And I'm not adverse to medications by any 204 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:25,600 means. I think there's a time and a place 205 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:26,800 and they're extremely supportive 206 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,680 and 1000% in part of the 207 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,520 conversation, at least in this community. 208 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,520 But there's so many, so many directions 209 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,440 that we want to look in to support us as 210 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,480 a full system, each and each and every 211 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,080 one of us from a full systemic 212 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,280 perspective. And so that's so 213 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:43,640 interesting. So it kind of answered that 214 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,320 question of, you know, why does this tend 215 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,200 to happen so much later in life?Because 216 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,120 we've developed. These internalized 217 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,720 coping strategies and something that you 218 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,440 alluded to but didn't mention but maybe 219 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,840 can now is that from what I understand, a 220 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,720 lot of the ADHD research had 221 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,360 done been done exclusively on men 222 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,320 and younger men like boys or whatever 223 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,000 age range, but very minimally done on 224 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:07,800 women because of the cyclical nature of 225 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,440 our hormones. So it affected the the 226 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:11,920 information that was garnered from the 227 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:12,840 research. Is that what you're 228 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,680 understanding as well?I think more is 229 00:09:15,680 --> 00:09:18,400 being done more recently, but. I 230 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,200 think going back a couple of decades, a 231 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:22,880 lot of it, yeah. Well, a lot of research 232 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,600 in general, unfortunately, has been done 233 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,240 on men and boys and just saying, 234 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,000 OK, well, women are just small men, right? 235 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,680 No, noSo yes, there is a lot more, 236 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,240 a lot more research needed, but things 237 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:38,640 like the crossovers between. 238 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,760 Neurodiversity and things like 239 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:43,800 hypermobility and being a highly 240 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,680 sensitive person and gifted nurse and the 241 00:09:46,680 --> 00:09:48,760 sensitive nervous system and MCAS and 242 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,400 POTS and like all these things like they 243 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,360 are, there is a link. And again, 244 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:54,800 when we're pulling all of this out and 245 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,920 put it into boxes as opposed to looking 246 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,760 at this as a collective, then we're 247 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,080 kind of missing things and people are 248 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,000 left confused and and 249 00:10:04,560 --> 00:10:07,280 unsupported a lot of the time. But there 250 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,680 is. There is support, there is, there is 251 00:10:09,680 --> 00:10:11,920 hope out there. And also looking at 252 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,880 things like how PMDD, which is, which 253 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,640 is, I think actually I'm not going to 254 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:18,880 give a quote because I'll probably get 255 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,280 the statistic wrong, but it's it's a lot 256 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,240 more prevalent in neurodivergent women 257 00:10:24,560 --> 00:10:26,560 having PMDD because we're looking at 258 00:10:26,560 --> 00:10:29,000 hormone fluctuations. Can you 259 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:31,680 explain what that acronym stands for for 260 00:10:31,680 --> 00:10:34,400 people that aren't aware?So PMDDI 261 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,520 think stands for post premenstrual 262 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,680 dysphoric disorder. 263 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,120 Essentially it's a form of extreme 264 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,040 PMS, but it's in the luteal phase the 265 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,960 the up to two weeks before your your 266 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,600 bleed where your progesterone is 267 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,680 lower. I think I'm not a hormone expert, 268 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,800 but essentially that luteal phase can be 269 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,040 really difficult for some women with 270 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,680 ADHD and. That's when the 271 00:11:03,680 --> 00:11:06,400 anxiety can really spike and the 272 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,400 dysregulation of our nervous system can 273 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,360 feel a lot more. We're 274 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,680 essentially a lot more sensitive in that 275 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,280 time. And if we're not aware of this and 276 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,880 we're not tracking our cycles and we're 277 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,520 not aware of our nervous system, we can 278 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,160 think we're just going crazy for a couple 279 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,240 of weeks, a month if we're not linking it 280 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,200 to what's going on. And some months 281 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,160 can be better than others, but again. If 282 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,040 you're going to the doctor in that period 283 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,680 saying I'm losing my mind and they're 284 00:11:37,680 --> 00:11:40,560 like, oh, it's anxiety, well, is it?Has 285 00:11:40,560 --> 00:11:42,320 anyone looked at your hormones?Has anyone 286 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,000 looked at your sensitivities?Are you 287 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,760 neurodivergent?Maybe these things are 288 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,160 interlinked and there can be some things 289 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:51,280 done to help with that. 290 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,120 OK, yeah, so many things to consider. I I 291 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,280 think it is really beautiful to. 292 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,040 look at this, and especially as women, 293 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,000 right?Predominantly, I support women and 294 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,720 those that identify as women. And so it's 295 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,440 such an important factor. And so 296 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,400 it is, again, this 297 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,720 mysterious thing, right?The human body is 298 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,640 such a fascinating subject and so 299 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,320 intricate that we're just even more 300 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:19,640 garnishing more information and 301 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:20,960 understanding about. And so 302 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,200 it has so much to teach us,Right. So much 303 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:26,680 to teach us if we're willing to pay 304 00:12:26,680 --> 00:12:29,320 attention, if we're able to quiet the 305 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:30,960 noisy chatter of the collective of 306 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:32,400 squawking seagulls in our brain and 307 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,160 really listen to those subtle messages 308 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:35,760 that our body is giving us. And so 309 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,120 let's talk about that a little bit more 310 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,720 because your story, oh my goodness, like 311 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,640 what you spoke to of ending up in a 312 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,000 wheelchair for a long period of time. 313 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,120 What happened before that?Like, what do 314 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:49,920 you feel like you maybe were some signals 315 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:51,760 that you missed out on, you know, and 316 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:53,280 sometimes it might be someone's missing 317 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,440 out on them. Or they may be blatant 318 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,200 symptoms or signals that just get louder 319 00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:59,840 and louder and louder. And we're so in 320 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,000 our head and so in the coping strategies 321 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,000 of more work, do go, I got to do these 322 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,720 things that we miss those subtle signals. 323 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:08,840 So can you speak to that about what 324 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,280 happens when you know, maybe we what they 325 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,520 are first of all for many people and then 326 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:14,800 what happen, what can happen in our 327 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,760 bodies when we skip out on them and 328 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,520 ignore them?Yeah. So 329 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,240 first thing I want to say here is just 330 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:24,960 especially for anyone who is 331 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,760 neurodivergent and listening to this, our 332 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,600 goal in life is not to quiet our brain. 333 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,280 Like there is nothing wrong with us. If 334 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,360 our minds are making noise, that is their 335 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,680 job. They are there to just talk at us, 336 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,960 they. Our thoughts are not necessarily 337 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,440 reality, in fact. But I think a lot of 338 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:42,600 us, especially if we try and go into 339 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,640 things like meditation, can struggle 340 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,640 because we're like, we need to quiet all 341 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,480 the noise. And then we go into the shame 342 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,880 spiral of but I can't because it's so 343 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,360 loud and there's all these things. And 344 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,080 what am I having for dinner?Oh, I forgot 345 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,800 that thing. And off we go. And it's 346 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:58,760 it's kind of giving us a step back and 347 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,280 and noticing, oh, OK, actually 348 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,720 today I feel really all over the place. 349 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,000 There's a lot going on in my head. Maybe 350 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,560 I need to do a brain dump. Maybe this is 351 00:14:08,560 --> 00:14:10,320 telling me something. Maybe I'm feeling a 352 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,400 bit more anxious. I need to regulate. 353 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,840 And when we have that noisy brain, 354 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,520 we can also give it something to do 355 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,400 sometimes. So going back to the body, 356 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,880 things like body scans, as opposed to 357 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,600 just sitting in silence, can 358 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,560 give that busy brain a bit of an anchor 359 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,120 to focus on. And then we can 360 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,200 Come into stillness a little bit more 361 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,400 easily as opposed to I just can't 362 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,840 meditate because I've got ADHD, which 363 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,880 is probably a belief for a lot of us. 364 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,920 And then going back to your question 365 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,560 about the like this, 366 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,480 the signals beforehand and what happened 367 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,760 before I ended up in a wheelchair and 368 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,600 there were definitely a lot of 369 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,360 little nudges that my my body was 370 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,320 telling me and I had grown 371 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,760 up. conditioned in a way that, you know, 372 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,800 you don't listen to that. Like if I was 373 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,760 not very well when I was younger, oh mum, 374 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,760 I've got a tummy ache. I don't want to go 375 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,040 to school. No, you're going to school. 376 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,240 And just those sorts of things like, and 377 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,800 it's it's not just my mum, it was 378 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,040 society in general. Don't listen to your 379 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,000 body. School is more important. Work 380 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,520 is more important. You need to be 381 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,400 productive. That is more important than 382 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,280 what your body is trying to tell you. So 383 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,080 there were these little somatic nudgesof 384 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:33,920 things like tummy aches and like 385 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,320 digestive issues from a very young age, 386 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,520 sensitivities. I had horrific 387 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,280 eczema when I was a child. 388 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,240 I was hospitalised, I covered from the 389 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,560 neck down. I realise now I have quite 390 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,000 severe dairy intolerance so I don't have 391 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,880 dairy and don't really get any issues 392 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,320 with eczema. So there's these these 393 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:55,840 little things that have been going on 394 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,240 that looking back now I'm like, 395 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:02,320 ahYeah, why did no one see this?Why has 396 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,240 no one looked at this as a big picture 397 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,480 and maybe tried some stuff?But you know, 398 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:07,800 we live and learn. It's part of the 399 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,680 journey. It's made me stronger. So some 400 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,040 of the little nudges before I got ill, 401 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,440 there was trauma, unfortunately. 402 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,800 My dad passed away when I was 13. 403 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,640 I was then conditioned in this world that 404 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,200 didn't understand me. I got bullied in 405 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,120 school. Abusive relationships in my teen. 406 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:29,600 So there's a there's a fair bit of trauma 407 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,320 there and and shrinking of 408 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,120 myself and not 409 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,760 being able to show up and speak my needs. 410 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,720 So my body was also interpreting that as 411 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,520 you're not important. So it was then 412 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,280 having to get louder and louder and 413 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,000 louder to try and get my attention to get 414 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,000 some of those needs spoken. So I'd get 415 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,840 colds and I'd like 416 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,120 catch viruses and things a lot. 417 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,320 I remember I caught glandular 418 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,200 fever, I think you guys call it mono, 419 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,280 Epstein-Barr virus when I was 420 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,680 15. And 421 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,800 after that, I just never felt right. Like 422 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,400 my whole body ached all the time and I 423 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,480 was just always exhausted. So I'd kind of 424 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,960 get through school or college and then 425 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:18,480 I'd go and do like a Saturday job and I'd 426 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,320 come home and I would feel like I'd been 427 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,560 thrown down the stairs like multiple 428 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,280 times, but I was just hearing, 429 00:17:25,360 --> 00:17:27,560 oh, well,All of the adults are just 430 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,400 always complaining that they're tired and 431 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,240 things ache. So is this what growing up 432 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,120 is?And I never questioned why is 433 00:17:35,120 --> 00:17:37,760 my body hurting so much when I'm 434 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,720 1718, you know, early 20s. 435 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:42,720 And then it got, it progressively got 436 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,320 worse and worse and worse because I 437 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,800 wasn't listening to those little nudges. 438 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,840 The colds would get longer and and 439 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,320 worse and I'd end up getting sick from it 440 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,800 was kind of. September, October to 441 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,200 March, April, just the whole of winter. I 442 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,440 just couldn't shake a cold. 443 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,360 Allergies would be worse. I had nut 444 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:07,840 allergy symptoms and 445 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:09,840 I've been in anaphylactic shock at this 446 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,440 time and I realise now some of that is 447 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,000 the MCAS, which is mast cell activation 448 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,240 syndrome, which is your mast cells 449 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:18,600 going on OverDrive basically and 450 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,400 overreacting to everything 451 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,920 and. Yeah, there was just 452 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,640 lots of these little, little things. And 453 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:28,800 when I was noticing that I was getting 454 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,760 tired from work or from life in 455 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,680 general, I just wouldn't stop. I'd just 456 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,480 keep going. And I remember being so, 457 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,760 so ridiculous. I say this with compassion 458 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,040 that on the weekend I'd be exhausted, but 459 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,360 I could not sit still. I could not be 460 00:18:45,360 --> 00:18:47,760 bored. I could not be with any of those 461 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,160 feelings or even let them come near 462 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,840 me. So I would be baking 463 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,000 brownies, I'd be making a Sunday roast, 464 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,000 and I'd be outside cleaning my car all at 465 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,920 the same time whilst being absolutely 466 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,760 exhausted. And then I look back and I 467 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,640 wonder, oh, no wonder my body just 468 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,720 broke one day and just just 469 00:19:09,360 --> 00:19:11,840 stopped me in my tracks and was like, no, 470 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,120 that's enough because I 471 00:19:15,120 --> 00:19:17,520 wasn't listening. Oh, 472 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,200 my goodness. Yeah, that's the thing, 473 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,000 right?Is, you know, the saying somebody 474 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,760 brilliant said something to the effect of 475 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,400 if we don't listen to the whispers, we 476 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,240 will be forced to listen to the screams. 477 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,240 And The thing is, is that some of us, you 478 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,040 know, continue forward 479 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,560 adapting and pushing and driving until we 480 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,720 get to that breaking point, right?And so 481 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,040 our goal is to empower you with this 482 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,480 information so that you never get 483 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,040 anywhere close to that. But the reality 484 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,120 is, is that sometimes we're so deep in it 485 00:19:49,120 --> 00:19:51,040 that we don't even notice, right?And 486 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,480 these are protective patterns that are 487 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,480 hardwired in, that are trauma responses 488 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,320 that are survival mechanisms, right?And 489 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:57,840 they're just what we do and how we do it. 490 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,840 But we get to a point where it's we don't 491 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,040 have the capacity for it anymore and the 492 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,440 system of the body just gets overloaded 493 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,240 clearly and it's. That's where 494 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,640 practicing compassionate curiosity, 495 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,640 non-judgmental self-awareness as a 496 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,600 practice is so beautiful so that 497 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,040 we get nowhere near that, right? 498 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:18,760 Eventually. And I know Jenny shares that 499 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,520 and then wants that for you too. And so 500 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,000 it's an interesting piece to consider is 501 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,160 that over the course of our 502 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,160 humanity, you know, collectively and 503 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,320 individually, we all go through. stuff, 504 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,600 right?We all go through things that 505 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,440 impact us, and they might be 506 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,600 little T moments, hopefully, or they 507 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,160 might be big, intense, traumatic moments. 508 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,640 And most of us have a collection of that. 509 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:44,880 And so it's really important for us to be 510 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,360 really compassionate, and you spoke to 511 00:20:46,360 --> 00:20:48,080 that there, and thank you for sharing 512 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,840 that and and witnessing you in that as 513 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,600 well. And so it's important for us to 514 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,640 look through that lens of awareness of 515 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,640 this,You know, and maybe people are 516 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,040 familiar with this. Maybe you're trauma 517 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,920 informed yourself is that we're looking 518 00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:02,000 through this as the lens of compassionate 519 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,400 curiosity and and looking at how things 520 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,640 impact us and what they can be trying to 521 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,720 teach us and show us and to help us learn 522 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,640 and grow. So for your from your 523 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:11,440 perspective, 524 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:14,880 what from the trauma informed 525 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,840 perspective, really what?And where 526 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,480 do anxiety and depression 527 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,640 emanate from, come from or maybe caused 528 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,400 by and and what is the the role 529 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,800 in our nervous system regulation, but 530 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,760 also in awareness of it, of both of 531 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,600 those challenges that many people in this 532 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,200 community are navigating? 533 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,400 Yeah, great question. And 534 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,720 I think so I've trained with Gabo Marte 535 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,960 in Compassionate Inquiry, so. 536 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,240 I know he can be quite diversive, but 537 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,600 yeah, I I really, I really vibe with his 538 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,240 stuff. And from what I've 539 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,560 learned from him, he has said 540 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,400 that anxiety, well, 541 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:01,680 whether this is said from him, I'm not 542 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,040 sure. This is something I picked up along 543 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,840 the way. Anxiety is about projecting 544 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,920 forward and needing to control what's 545 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,480 going on in the future because we don't 546 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,800 feel safe in our bodies. And I'll talk 547 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:13,920 more about the nervous system in a 548 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,640 moment. And then depression is a 549 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,560 pushing down. I mean, what is the word 550 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,440 depress?You depress A pedal, you depress 551 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,040 something, you push it down. So what is 552 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,760 it you're pushing down?And if you think 553 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,040 of like a beach ball pushing it 554 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,000 underwater, you're depressing that beach 555 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,360 ball. What happens when you let go of 556 00:22:33,360 --> 00:22:35,840 that?That's a lot of energy. Yep. 557 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,600 That wants to come up and out. And for 558 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:39,680 anyone watching, I've got one of those 559 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,840 giant Swiss balls behind me. Imagine 560 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,800 keeping that pushed down. So how much 561 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,920 energy does that take?Because depression, 562 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,400 what?What are some of the symptoms? 563 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,360 Fatigue, exhausted, can't sleep, 564 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,600 don't want to do anything. If you're 565 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,360 spending your whole life holding this 566 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,160 beach ball underwater, it's 567 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,280 exhausting. You're not going to want to 568 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,720 do anything because everything is pushing 569 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,200 this thing down. So what is that beach 570 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,960 ball?What is it you're you're having to 571 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,720 be pushing down?Is that linked 572 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,040 to maybe you not feeling like you can be 573 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,000 authentic?Because if we go back to what 574 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,240 happened in our childhood and look at 575 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,640 this through a trauma-informed lens, 576 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,640 we have two choices. When we're children, 577 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,600 unconsciously, we can attach 578 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:29,760 or we can be authentic. 579 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,160 And when we're a baby and when we're very 580 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,960 young, and attachment is literally our 581 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,760 only form of survival, we 582 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,640 always will choose the attachment. And if 583 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,480 that then means we have to depress and 584 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,640 suppress some of our 585 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,080 authenticity, and then we learn these 586 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,720 coping strategies and we we 587 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,600 believe I I'm not enough as I am. 588 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,440 I I need to be the good girl, the 589 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,200 perfectionist, the whatever in 590 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,000 order to be accepted because we always go 591 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,600 for that attachment. So especially for a 592 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,320 lot of women, we will very much be the 593 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,400 people pleasers and the perfectionists. 594 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,160 Because we are looking for that 595 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,040 attachment and and that is that child 596 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,600 part of us that is coming up 597 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,400 as adults and 598 00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:23,480 that can look like depression and we're 599 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,520 holding all that stuff down. And that can 600 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,120 also look like anxiety in wanting and 601 00:24:28,120 --> 00:24:30,880 needing to control the outcome. You know, 602 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,320 everything has to be perfect because I 603 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,880 can't possibly people won't love me. 604 00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:37,840 I'm not accepted in this 605 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,240 environment if I don't get this right. 606 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,200 And that can sound quite extreme, but if 607 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,920 you go back to our survival caveman 608 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,520 roots, we would 609 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:49,920 literally, if we are 610 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,960 excluded from our tribe, 611 00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:56,160 we die. And 612 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,040 coming into the nervous system then, that 613 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,760 can feel predominantly unsafe. 614 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,320 We are then switching into our survival 615 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,640 state. Those coping strategies are coming 616 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,200 up. And where this can then turn into 617 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,200 things like burnout is because when we're 618 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,760 in that state for a chronic 619 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,720 time, especially our our 620 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,880 sympathetic and our dorsal state, the the 621 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,800 fight, flight and the freeze, they're 622 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,040 fantastic for surviving 623 00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:25,600 something. Yeah, for a short time. 624 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,600 Chronically, they drain our 625 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,480 energy. So we, you 626 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,280 know, we get adrenal fatigue. It does all 627 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,920 sorts of stuff to our hormones. can 628 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,840 change our DNA, change our cell. It does 629 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,080 all this stuff within our body. So this 630 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,240 is where the nervous system is so 631 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,720 important because if you think of the 632 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,720 nervous system like a a bucket 633 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,520 and there's only so much stress that we 634 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,360 can hold in that bucket. So 635 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,400 day-to-day stresses happen. They could be 636 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:57,920 things like an e-mail from your boss, 637 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,200 they can be things like witnessing a car 638 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,800 accident, like all sorts of stuff. They 639 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:03,760 go into that bucket. 640 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,320 Yeah, I'm just seeing something here, so. 641 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,480 Oh yeah, no, I honor that because thank 642 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,000 you for witnessing me because that's it, 643 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,680 right?And And I know you have more to 644 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,520 share, but I I noticed you're witnessing 645 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,120 me in that. And so many people in this 646 00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:23,560 community were sensitive and we we tend 647 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,440 to underestimate like, I saw all 648 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:27,920 this stuff or even like, let's take a 649 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,400 very real, very daily example for so many 650 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,720 people, social media, and you're seeing 651 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,360 atrocities and you're seeing stuff that 652 00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:36,080 you're like, what in the actual fuck is 653 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,120 happening right now?And you're taking 654 00:26:38,120 --> 00:26:39,600 that in, whether you know that or not, 655 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:40,800 you can feel that in your body. That's 656 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,920 all going in the bucket. So thank you for 657 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,640 bringing that up. Back to you, back to 658 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,520 the bucket. And I just also want to 659 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,360 say, like, for me personally, I don't 660 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,240 believe so much in trigger warnings. 661 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,280 Don't go looking for nasty shitBut also 662 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,000 it's being healing is really being in 663 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,760 these sorts of spaces where we can see 664 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,760 something and we can hold that space to 665 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,720 go. There's something here. Let's 666 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,800 just. Allow this to be here for a moment. 667 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,280 I'm witnessing you. You know, whatever's 668 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,200 here, this is safe to come out if it 669 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,080 wants to come out, as opposed to. 670 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,400 So I'm fine. Yeah, yeah, I'm good. How 671 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,080 are you?And this is something I hear. 672 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,080 And your voice has totally changed there. 673 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,880 And it's like, no, you're not. And we can 674 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,640 all tell. But like, we're like trying to 675 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,000 put on this, the masking and the fake it 676 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,240 till I make it, you knowAnd we're just 677 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,440 like stuffing it all down. And yeah, it's 678 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,000 fine. It's fine. It's fine. And it's not 679 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,600 right. We call that in this community, 680 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,520 the worn out woman, that, you know, 681 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,520 caffeinated hamster on, just constantly 682 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,320 going, going, going. I'm fine. No, 683 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,800 you're not. You're squeaking like your 684 00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:45,360 voice is squeaking right now. And it 685 00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:47,400 makes me feel like you're pulling the 686 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,520 wool over our eyes, but no. ohh You can't 687 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,280 fake your frequency. You can't fake your 688 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,200 your inner state shines through and 689 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,720 radiates out of you, right?And it's 690 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,440 undeniable in any direction. So 691 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,600 thank you. And so sorry for jumping in, 692 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:00,640 but yes, continue. Well, 693 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,360 this is this is probably more important 694 00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:06,600 than whatever I was saying anyway. 695 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,160 Well, it's supporting you in that too is 696 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,920 right is that. That state of the nervous 697 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,160 system and how it's so important to weave 698 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,160 these little moments and community and 699 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,080 witnessing and and that's it is is 700 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,640 our work you do clearly so well is giving 701 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,640 space for these things and not 702 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,360 suppressing and repressing and pushing 703 00:28:26,360 --> 00:28:29,200 them away and and denying their presence 704 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,080 because. It's part of us that's asking to 705 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,560 be witnessed. It's asking to be seen. 706 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,280 And so these coping strategies 707 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,640 at one point were very effective for 708 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,320 our survival, right?And so they're not 709 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,040 necessarily going to get us to where we 710 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,240 want to go. And they're not hardwired, 711 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:47,920 right?That's the beautiful thing is that 712 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,960 we we have the opportunity and the 713 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,520 ability to shift this through these 714 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,960 different tools and learning and being in 715 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,320 community like this. And so thank you. 716 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,280 And soActually, this is kind of the 717 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,920 perfect segue. So let's go 718 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,480 to the point in our episode where we take 719 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,040 a little power pause and Jenny's going to 720 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,880 walk us through. And so we're going to do 721 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,920 a hands-on energy reset 722 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,160 and Jenny's going to lead us through 723 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:14,600 that. So would you like to do that for 724 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,520 us, please?Yes, of course. So for 725 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,080 anyone watching or listening, this 726 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,040 is a wonderful regulation tool that you 727 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,680 can use. So let's get on our our left 728 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,760 side. So we're going to find our 729 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,800 collarbone and we're 730 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,560 just going to gently tap along the 731 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,360 edge of your collarbone. 732 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:37,840 And as you're doing this, just starting 733 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,280 to bring a little bit of awareness to 734 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:41,760 maybe your fingers tapping your 735 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,720 collarbone and to your collarbone 736 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,600 being tapped. And then we're going to 737 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:48,960 bring that into the shoulder 738 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,520 and taking that down the arm. 739 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,400 And you can do this with fists, you can 740 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,920 do this with fingertips, palms, whatever 741 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,200 feels okay for you. 742 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,680 And at a pressure that is OK. And if you 743 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,280 imagine maybe you've got paint on your 744 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,000 hand and you're trying to cover your 745 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,480 whole, your whole arm, your whole hand in 746 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,400 paint and you can imagine whatever colour 747 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,280 that is. So we're giving the whole arm a 748 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,440 good, a good tap. You get into the armpit 749 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:22,360 as well if you want to. 750 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,840 And then we're going to brush from the 751 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:28,880 top of the shoulder. You can do this from 752 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,720 your ear and your neck if you want. You 753 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,800 can brush down your arm and if you're 754 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,600 standing, you can always just let your 755 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,720 arm just get. you let it hang. So 756 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,160 you're brushing from your ear, sweeping 757 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,680 down across your arm 758 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,680 and if you're holding any anxiety or 759 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,840 tension, imagine stuff that you're 760 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,800 brushing off and then you 761 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,120 can give that arm a shake. So whatever 762 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,000 feels good, whatever direction, just 763 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,120 giving it a a shake and a wiggle, 764 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,520 shaking any stuff off and then just 765 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,400 coming back to whatever feels 766 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,280 like a rest. And checking 767 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,200 in and just noticing what you're aware of 768 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,040 in that left arm compared to your 769 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:13,400 right. 770 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,160 So for anyone that maybe doesn't 771 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,640 find connecting to their body that 772 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,520 easily, are you noticing a difference 773 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,120 whether you have words for it or not?Is 774 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,160 there maybe a tingliness, a more 775 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,880 aliveness?Does your 776 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,920 shoulder feel a little bit softer? 777 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,440 less tension there. So 778 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,320 I'd invite you to do the same on the the 779 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,560 right side just to even yourself up so if 780 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,480 we've got time we can do just 781 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,600 tapping across the right collarbone now, 782 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,680 taking that down the arm, 783 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,440 giving that all a tap and the reason that 784 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,240 we are comparing 785 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,120 is to just give ourselves a little a 786 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,440 little opportunity to see did that work? 787 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,960 Did that do something?Am I aware 788 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,320 of something being here?So as 789 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,000 we tap and then we're going to sweep from 790 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,560 the ear, again brushing anything off 791 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,800 and getting into your whole arm, giving 792 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,440 it a little wiggle as you do so and then 793 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,200 just giving that arm a little a little 794 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,080 shake. Forwards, 795 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,600 backwards, out to the side, whatever 796 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,120 feels okay and then 797 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,880 When you have finished that again, coming 798 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,760 back to centre 799 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,160 and noticing, ah, what am I 800 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,040 aware of?Is there maybe a 801 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,080 bit more aliveness of your shoulders 802 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,760 dropped?So yeah, Megan, I'd love to hear 803 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,640 from you. What is it you're aware 804 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:50,880 of?What was that like for 805 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,280 you?Well, I was like, we're doing the 806 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,280 other side too. We are making time and 807 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,160 space for this. You're all lopsided. 808 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,560 And I appreciate you checking in with 809 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,840 that. And I love the the pause in between 810 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,000 because so many people in this community 811 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,800 are really highly sensitive and very 812 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,200 intelligent and very, you know, we want 813 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:13,960 to know, I want to know that this is 814 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,080 actually doing something. And so I love 815 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,160 that moment to pause. And so for me, 816 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,000 there was a clear difference and I love 817 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,600 the. The ease and the 818 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,120 spaciousness that comes into the arms and 819 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,000 then it ripples into the whole body. And 820 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,400 so thank you for that. And So what you 821 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,880 just experienced, if you're watching 822 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,840 this, catching this just over on YouTube 823 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,960 as a standalone video of this beautiful 824 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,360 energy reset, is actually part of a full 825 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,000 episode of the Movement, Mind and Meaning 826 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,000 podcast, where Jenny and I are diving 827 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,840 into all things nervous system and how it 828 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,720 impacts ADHD, anxiety and burnout. 829 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,120 So make sure to check out the whole 830 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,680 episode. And Jenny has so much more 831 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:51,880 magical stuff to. to share. So you're 832 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,120 going to definitely want to watch that 833 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,000 whole video. And actually it leads 834 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,080 us to a really great opportunity. So I 835 00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,440 know that you have a lot of magical 836 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:00,560 things to share. I know you have 837 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,160 incredible things coming up. And in fact, 838 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,640 you are doing a workshop really soon. Oh, 839 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,920 ohh actually, it might be in the past if 840 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,560 you happen to be catching this later. So 841 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,280 let's speak to that as well. But tell us 842 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,280 a little more about your upcoming March 843 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,200 workshop, please. Yes. So 844 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,560 on the 5th of March, I am going to be 845 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,680 speaking and teaching people about how 846 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,720 to shift from being an overwhelmed 847 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,560 ADHD entrepreneur that is, you know, 848 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,200 you've started your values driven 849 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:30,800 business that you absolutely love. You 850 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,800 want this dream life where you can travel 851 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,760 or maybe just get home to spend time with 852 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,280 your kids and cook dinner. And what 853 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,360 you're actually doing is spending all day 854 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,200 feeling overwhelmed, jumping from thing 855 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,760 to thing, struggling with focus. So. 856 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,000 I'm going to be supporting people in a 857 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,840 free workshop to learn the the first 858 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,120 few steps of how to 859 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,840 maybe shift some things around so you can 860 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,840 get better focus. You can 861 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,880 easily shift out of overwhelm and you're 862 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,800 starting to prioritise what's actually 863 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,360 important to you and putting that first 864 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,800 so that you are then able to to live the 865 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,520 life you want and let the business. 866 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,360 look after you and what's important to 867 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,000 you first, not the other way around. So 868 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,480 it's on the 5th of March. It's going to 869 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,360 be 1pm GMT, which is 870 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,080 8am Eastern. So it's probably the middle 871 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,240 of the night for you in Maui. There will 872 00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:26,560 be a replay available for about a week. 873 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,520 But if you hop over onto my socials on my 874 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,040 website, which I'm sure you'll link 875 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,440 below, or it's @jennyadamscoach. 876 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,560 Then keep an eye on everything and you'll 877 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,440 see what's what's going on with me and 878 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,240 and how I can support you as well. Oh, 879 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:42,880 I love that. Perfect. Well, thank you for 880 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,640 sharing all of that and absolutely will 881 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,560 be linked up in the show notes as well as 882 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,080 the description of the videos. 883 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,440 And thank you for accommodating the fact 884 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,000 that it might be the middle of the night 885 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,080 for some people. So 886 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,360 real thing with these Internets, it's 887 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,560 amazing. But yes, time zones are a real 888 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,720 thing and so. I really love that you 889 00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:06,360 speak specifically to the entrepreneur 890 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:07,920 that has these challenges. And so it 891 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,240 would, if somebody isn't necessarily a 892 00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:12,640 business owner, would this tool set still 893 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,440 be applicable for them as well?But if 894 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,000 they're navigating those other challenges 895 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,800 you mentioned, yeah. So the reason I have 896 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,760 it kind of pitched to entrepreneurs is 897 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,160 because. Generally they are people that 898 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,680 are extremely passionate about what they 899 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,520 do and they've also got some a 900 00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:30,200 bit of flexibility over how they're 901 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,800 spending their time. So if you're someone 902 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,960 that has some flexibility over your 903 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,240 schedule, your time, and you're 904 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,360 aligning with, you know, the overwhelm, 905 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,720 the burnout, drop me a message, come 906 00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:45,040 along to the workshop anyway and 907 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,760 I can definitely support you in some way. 908 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,160 So yeah, just yeah, 909 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,200 let me know. Yeah, good, good, good, good 910 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,360 Yeah. And I mean, the prevalence of 911 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,000 ADHD and ADD are really interestingly 912 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,520 high in the entrepreneur community. 913 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,400 Exactly. ExactlyWe're 914 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,320 pegs. So we go and we go and do our own 915 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,200 thing, so. Right. And and maybe 916 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,000 you're still in corporate or still 917 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,680 in a job and you have a little side 918 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,040 hustle you've been thinking about or 919 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,560 you're like a little thing you're working 920 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:19,840 on. So yes, you've got that 921 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,000 entrepreneurial spirit brewing inside of 922 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,080 you. So yes, definitely come and check 923 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,000 out the workshop. And so as 924 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,920 we finish up, is there 925 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,800 anything that you feel would, you know, 926 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,280 as one little?glorious 927 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,360 nugget that they could take away. 928 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,440 Anything that you would like to finish 929 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,160 with?Yes, I think 930 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,720 just just going back to that moment 931 00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:49,680 that you've had and giving and and the 932 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,480 space for that moment, this is what 933 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,280 regulation is about. It's not necessarily 934 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,720 just about tools and 935 00:37:57,720 --> 00:38:00,240 shaking and coming into our body and 936 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,360 and yeah, all of these toolsThey're also 937 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,520 giving ourselves the pause to just check 938 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,440 in. Am I okay?Do I need anything?Because 939 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,400 when we're looking at that stress bucket, 940 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,360 that potentially was a stressor that is 941 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,200 now not going into that bucket to 942 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,640 overflow, because that was an opportunity 943 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,400 for a spoonful of that liquid to be taken 944 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,440 out of that bucket, as opposed to more 945 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,240 added in, because there was space given, 946 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,800 there was regulation. So it's it's not 947 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,960 always just about the tools, they can be 948 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,920 great. So if this is feeling overwhelming 949 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,440 for anyone, Oh my God, where do I start?I 950 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,840 need to learn all these things. Finding a 951 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,720 pause. Literally one breath. 952 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,920 Are my feet on the ground?How am I in 953 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,760 this moment?Just stopping to ask 954 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,680 yourself that is a very simple and 955 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,280 probably the best place to start. 956 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,000 Well. Our listeners are going to know 957 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,680 that I'm just about to going to love on 958 00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,200 what you just said there, because one of 959 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,600 the main tools that we use is the power 960 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,000 pause. When we feel the feels, we take a 961 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,840 power pause. So thank you. That's a 962 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,800 beautiful finishing moment and a 963 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,520 beautiful reminder. And all I could 964 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,800 hear was, and it might be because you're 965 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,720 British, a spoonful of stress out of 966 00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:18,160 the bucket. I was like, I wish you would 967 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:19,960 like sing it in Mary Poppins voice right 968 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:20,880 now so bad, but. 969 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:24,560 Not to undermine what you were saying, 970 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,680 but you're still right, is that we have 971 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,520 these again. We're like, what is this 842 972 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,960 step strategy for me to do to regulate my 973 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,200 nervous system?And I'm going to be a 974 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:34,880 really healthy person from here on out. 975 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,600 No, that's tightly wound version of 976 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,000 ourself, right?And so that witnessing and 977 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,160 that honoring and that tending, 978 00:39:42,720 --> 00:39:44,520 it's a moment to moment thing, friends. 979 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,000 This is not like. A one and done solution 980 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,960 by any means, and neither is life and 981 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,360 neither are you, right?And so I just 982 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:52,960 really love that you share that in a 983 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,280 really, and you shared it in such a 984 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,000 beautiful and gentle, compassionate way. 985 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,000 So thank you so much for everything, 986 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,320 Jenny, and lovely to have you on here. 987 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,720 And please, please connect with Jenny. 988 00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:05,040 Everything that you heard from her is 989 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:06,680 going to be in the show notes and the 990 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,640 description. Her socials 991 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,960 or the link to the workshop. And when 992 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,840 you're listening to this episode, make 993 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,520 sure to take a screenshot and tag us with 994 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,240 your takeaways because we want to witness 995 00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:20,240 you. And that's a huge part of regulation 996 00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:22,480 is community and connection. So we want 997 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,680 to witness you in your celebration and 998 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,000 your recognition and your learning and 999 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,840 your growth. So thank you so much 1000 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,160 everybody for being part of this 1001 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:30,960 beautiful community and part of this 1002 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,200 Movement, Mind and Meaning podcast where 1003 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,160 we use these different tools and shifts 1004 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,480 in perspectives and connection to 1005 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,560 continually grow and evolve like the 1006 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,360 beautiful, constantly evolving flower of 1007 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,760 humanity and beingness that you are. So 1008 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,440 thank you so much everybody. Sending you 1009 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,920 so much love and Aloha and we will see 1010 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,040 you all and hear you all. I guess you'll 1011 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,400 hear us on the next episode. Thank you so 1012 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:55,840 much. Take good care. Bye, bye.